[identity profile] fictivore.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] silwritersguild
 Hello Everyone...

This is a question I've been curious about for quite some time, as a Tolkien addict. Then when I discovered this very articulate community I have finally been able to gather the courage to do so, so here goes...

There are few works of fiction existing today, with the amount of sheer detail and fascination as JRR Tolkien's works of the First Age. The incredible world-building, the stories behind the stories, narratives conceived as mythologies, histories even conversations, all provide a very rich playground for a modern fan to play in.

However, this very detail leads to a very interesting question. How do you, as writers and/or scholars of Tolkien's First Age read the Silmarillion? Mythology? History? A Revisionist History written by the victors? A collection of second-hand accounts pieced together into a compelling narrative?

The fact that the Silmarillion is fiction is not in doubt at all... But the Silmarillion is a tale about immortal beings, amazingly fallible in their nature, about gods, about Evil and Destiny and inescapable Fates.

The Quenta Silmarillion itself, in story is supposed to have been a work of historical legend having been put to the paper by various writers. Some portions seem to have been intended to be written by a mortal of the later ages, Aelfwine, who through some unknown 'magic' was able to interact with the earlier ages (a canon time-travel plot bunny!). Some of it is undoubtedly part of the works of Bilbo during his stay in Rivendell, which were themselves translation from the work of Rumil of Tirion, a Noldor. 'The Annals of Beleriand', from which we get much of our knowledge of the First Age were supposed to have been written by Pengolodh, a follower of Turgon. The LaCE is a work of Rumil, again.

So do you take into consideration the backgrounds and prejudices of the purported writers while considering aspects of canon? Do you think Tolkien consciously shaped his writing of a piece based on that?

How much of the actual events are the fault of the actions of the characters? How much is Destiny and Doom and choices of their fore-fathers (the Feanorians, Turin, even Dior)?

Very interested in hearing the views of the fannishness at large... :D
From: [identity profile] heartofoshun.livejournal.com
It is fascinating to second guess the parts of the story that an author didn't really write (maybe what the author intended, or perhaps did not intend, that would fit between the lines). I cannot help but bring my own intellectual equipment and prejudices to the party. We all do. Fanfiction for me is a sort of let-a-thousand-flowers-bloom type of encounter with the texts. I may not like all of it, but I defend the writing of it unconditionally. The Silmarillion is my main fandom, but I am still one of those types who think is was a terrible waste that JK Rowling didn't make more of Draco Malfoy in the Harry Potter books. The books could have been stronger had he been less of a bully; a better writer would have made him at least a more conflicted bully (tens of thousands of Harry Potter fans can't be wrong in that case). The idea that some people, mainly LotR afficionados who aren't terribly fond of The Silmarillion, think that Tolkien didn't give us complexities and grey areas to deal with when looking at the First Age is not giving him a lot of credit as a writer. It is not a case of the Valar = good guys wearing white hats; Sons of Feanor = bad guys wearing black hats. JRRT fills Feanor and his sons with plenty of contradictions.
Edited Date: 2010-10-19 11:44 pm (UTC)

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