Two Questions

[clotho123.livejournal.com]

I've got a couple of minor questions people may be able to help me with.

1. Do any HOME experts know if there is any JRRT basis for the statement in the published Silmarillion that Dior was killed in the Thousand Caves?  Every JRRT note on the subject I can find has him killed in battle on the East Marches of Doriath.  Presumably Menegroth was sacked afterwards, but I think it makes Dior look a bit more ept if he wasn't taken *completely* by surprise.

2.  I'm wanting a father name for Celebrimbor.    The language section in Lost Road gives Quenya 'Mara' (under 'Mag-') as meaning skilled. Would 'Marafinwe' work, or am I putting it together wrong?  Any language experts out there?

Any help appreciated!

Comments

[dawn_felagund]

The Quenya name "Tyelperinquar"--a direct translation of "Celebrimbor"--is used in HoMe for Celebrimbor, though I do not know if Tolkien ever decided whether this was his mother- or father-name.

After that, I'm terrible with languages (though I know some people on this list are fantastic. *pokes them*)

[elvses.livejournal.com]

Don't know about "mara" (which means "useful"), but "maitë" and "hanya" would both work for "skilled". So "Maitefinwë" or "Hanyafinwë". I prefer the first.

[clotho123.livejournal.com]

Thanks, that could work.

[dawn_felagund]

Good. You felt my poke. ;)

I once used "Hanyafinwe" as one of the names that Feanaro was contemplating for Curufin. I was on the brink of saying, "Yay me!"...but then I realized that I used your name generator to create that name. Heh.

[clotho123.livejournal.com]

I know about Tyelperinquar, and it could have been his father name, but for story purposes I wanted a ---finwe name (and I'm terrible with languages too...)

[fanged-geranium.livejournal.com]

I don't have the books around just now to check, but IIRC the Fall of Menegroth was one of the bits Christopher Tolkien & co. wrote in their own way because JRRT's notes weren't detailed enough.

[clotho123.livejournal.com]

I know it was mostly CT's work - I just wondered if he had any source for where Dior was killed... maybe not.