[identity profile] martal0712.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] silwritersguild
Hey guys,

I recently posted a drabble over at my journal:

http://martal0712.livejournal.com/29178.html

It is about a young Feanor who is still learning his craft. And I think I struggled to capture the voice of a young Noldorin elf. I wanted to him in-character but didn't want it to sound too "high" because he is still more or less the elven equivalent of a teenager.

If anyone has the time and interest, I would really appreciate have a Feanatic look over the drabble for me. Does the language seem out of place anywhere? Are Feanor's actions true to how you think he would act?

Thanks in advance.

Date: 2006-08-03 12:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tehta.livejournal.com
I suppose that she changed the entry after you posted your comment, then, because when I read it was titled Young!Feanor it said that he is still more or less the elven equivalent of a teenager.

Trust me, you can.

I trust you, of course, and I was not objecting to the feedback you gave, just stating that, while the sentence length bothers you, it does not bother me. I do not see sentences of eight to ten words as abnormally short. But maybe she's already used your feedback to lengthen them? Or, as I said, it could be a question of taste. Hemmingway's sentences were even shorter, in general, and some people love his writing.

Date: 2006-08-03 07:32 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rhapsody11.livejournal.com
I suppose that she changed the entry after you posted your comment, then, because when I read it was titled Young!Feanor it said that he is still more or less the elven equivalent of a teenager.

She changed more, so it is comparing apples to pears now. I don't have the old version saved, I didn't think of that (neither did I see a reason too though).

I trust you, of course, and I was not objecting to the feedback you gave, just stating that, while the sentence length bothers you, it does not bother me.

Oh I bet you read a different version (and others). What struck me as odd was that the beginning and ending had a normal pacing, but somewhere it suddenly changed but not with a clear purpose. If you change your pace, especially with short pieces, it alarms the reader that something is said which you should pay attention too. In this case where it appeared it wasn't. The version I read now is different and more balanced. So yeah.

Hemmingway's sentences were even shorter, in general, and some people love his writing.

I most of his works that I could get my hands on at the Library (that was more than 10 years ago, maybe 15) so yes I know that :) For Whom the Bell Tolls is my absolute fab, followed by The Sun Also Rises.

I think, if you are interested, that they most marvellous manner how a growing up child is written can be read in Angela's Ashes by Frank McCourt. Look at the voice he is using there and watch how this slowly changes as the character ages. It's truly brilliant.

Date: 2006-08-03 08:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tehta.livejournal.com
Okay, it all makes sense now! I guess I had originally assumed that if the author hadn't replied to your comment, she wouldn't have updated the story using your comments, either. So, well. It's good that she did change it though. I approve of people who ask for comments actually accepting and using them!

If you change your pace, especially with short pieces, it alarms the reader that something is said which you should pay attention too.

That's a good point.

For Whom The Bell Tolls is a classic. (And, incidentally, I've always thought that a deliberately Hemmingwayesque style would be a brilliant way to write Aragorn. Think of the manliness!) I've read Angela's Ashes, but I guess I should take another look at it as I remember it as told from more of an adult-looking-at-the-past perspective. But while we're on the subject of 1) children's voices and 2) gifted Irish authors, I like Roddy Doyle's Paddy Clarke Ha Ha Ha a lot, and At Swim Two Boys has some excellent young-POV moments, too.

Date: 2006-08-03 08:50 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rhapsody11.livejournal.com
Well, knowing Marta, I think she has :) *pokes Marta* I think in the loads of e-mails she hasn't gotten the time to comment.

I read Angela's ashes last year and I was swept away by it, I didn't see the adult pov at all *looks around for her copy*. I have 'Tis waiting for me to read, but I don't have much time alone to put my feet up and read. Also, did you know his brother wrote a book too? And this thread makes me want to read my favs again *sigh*

I love Roddy Doyle! I have all his works here, except for the latest and I am quite addicted to the Barrytown trilogy (especially of the Commitments where I have the book, cd, dvd LOL). I was wondering if James Joyce did the same too with his classic a portrait of an...., but it has been too long since I read that. I need more hours in a day.

Date: 2006-08-03 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tehta.livejournal.com
Yes, I have read 'Tis and Malachy's A Monk Swimming. They both have more books, though, that I have not even seen. I just remember Angela's Ashes as having some musings on miserable Catholic childhoods and various moral questions interwoven with the text, but I could be confusing it with some other Irish novel.

I love the Barrytown trilogy, as I am a big fan of humour-with-meaning. I also admire The Woman Who Walked Into Doors, and bring it as an example whenever people claim that writers cannot use opposite-gender POVs effectively.

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