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I'm still pretty new to Tolkien, even though I've learned a lot about the mythos, but I am having trouble with a project I want to write--specifically, having trouble with some of the Elven details.

My story will take place on a timeline of about 20 years, and two of the main characters will be Elves. Can I create a special village or place for their Elven community, or did the Elves only dwell in listed ME places like Mirkwood and such, especially since they were fewer in number in Middle-Earth and many went to Valinor? Since the story will be set against the backdrop of the second big war against Morgoth, is there a specific way I must potray this community's involvement in that? My idea is for the community to be beseiged by the enemy's forces at present.

Any help would be appreciated.

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From:

rhapsody11.livejournal.com

LACE is not relation from elves, but written by someone from the outside and if any elves do obey it, there are elves of post Rings War times, wise beings not the emotional, immature elves of the I Age. I don't think Celegorm have ever heard of such thing ;) If he did he would never kidnapped Luthien.

Oh he did and because of it, he waited for *the* political marriage.

For now, believing that Beren and Felagund were prisoners beyond hope of aid, they purposed to let the King perish, and to keep Lúthien , and force Thingol to give her the mightiest of princes of the Noldor. And they did not purpose to seek the Silmarils by craft or war, or to suffer any others to do so, until they had all the might of the Elf-kingdoms under their hands. Orodreth had no power to withstand them, for they swayed the hearts of the people of Nargothrond; and Celegorm sent messengers to Thingol urging his suit.

*pets Celegorm* Ambitious you.

I know about who wrote LACE, I also knows it says: being observed...

But in LACE is also the bits about Fea, Hroa, Mandos ect ect ect If people accept that as canon, than they should also accept the not so covienent bits. You either embrace it fully, or discard it.

I know LACE by heart and I can write enough stories dealing based on LACE and still being accused of not sticking to it. Ask Dawn, she experienced the same. So yeah, having read it all...

From:

sirielle.livejournal.com

Still she would never love him and was already wife of another. (Elwe was blind and oblivious to LACE, either O_o) Or maybe Celegorm never loved her being one of these elves driven by sexual desire? Well, any way he was a criminal in that moment, on his downfall. Or only power?
Good that my Celegorm is in woods and can't talk now ;)

No, I don't take LACE fully as truth nor as a lie, I treat it as text which needs interpretation, because some facts have bis misunderstood. Everyone sees these texts in their own subjective way and that's why accusations of not following canon. Every one has got a different vision of canon, not only concerning LACE, which doesn't make life easier.
And of course besides discussing how much Aelfwine was mistaken I'm happy that this text was written and published. Despite what I said I take as true a lot of it.

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rhapsody11.livejournal.com

Or maybe Celegorm never loved her being one of these elves driven by sexual desire?

well how about this:
So great was her sudden beauty revealed beneath the sun that Celegorm became enamoured of her;

enamoured
adj. in love, delighted, charmed (also enamored)
enamour
v. inspire with love or delight

Completely smitten. Awwww.

From:

sirielle.livejournal.com

And I always thought it means he was in love, but you don't capture into a cage those who you love. Especially being Quendu - in my idealistic vision of them at least. If he loved her and followed LACE, he would never do it. So he didn't love her or didn't follow LACE.
Or it was sex, nothing more (and politics, but that's additional use of that situation).

But I like also

ithiliel_silver interpretation of that moment:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2464193/3/

Now it's too late, thank you for the nice conversation, if I've got anything more to add will do it later :)

From:

rhapsody11.livejournal.com

And I always thought it means he was in love, but you don't capture into a cage those who you love.

That depends. It happens daily.

Especially being Quendu - in my idealistic vision of them at least. If he loved her and followed LACE, he would never do it. So he didn't love her or didn't follow LACE.

Celegorm was Celegorm: the oath always came first, the rest comes later.

Or it was sex, nothing more (and politics, but that's additional use of that situation).

No it wasn't.

Now it's too late, thank you for the nice conversation, if I've got anything more to add will do it later :)

I suggest to stop debating it here, because this truly - and everything you brought up - had nothing to do with Remix's question. I don't want to flood her inbox with things that had nothing to do with her question about Elven Communities and the War of Wrath. It is not that I do not wish to debate Celegorm, but I don't want to continue hijacking this thread.