[identity profile] remix17.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] silwritersguild
I'm still pretty new to Tolkien, even though I've learned a lot about the mythos, but I am having trouble with a project I want to write--specifically, having trouble with some of the Elven details.

My story will take place on a timeline of about 20 years, and two of the main characters will be Elves. Can I create a special village or place for their Elven community, or did the Elves only dwell in listed ME places like Mirkwood and such, especially since they were fewer in number in Middle-Earth and many went to Valinor? Since the story will be set against the backdrop of the second big war against Morgoth, is there a specific way I must potray this community's involvement in that? My idea is for the community to be beseiged by the enemy's forces at present.

Any help would be appreciated.
 

Re: #3 part, damned word count!

Date: 2007-03-07 12:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sirielle.livejournal.com
Still she would never love him and was already wife of another. (Elwe was blind and oblivious to LACE, either O_o) Or maybe Celegorm never loved her being one of these elves driven by sexual desire? Well, any way he was a criminal in that moment, on his downfall. Or only power?
Good that my Celegorm is in woods and can't talk now ;)

No, I don't take LACE fully as truth nor as a lie, I treat it as text which needs interpretation, because some facts have bis misunderstood. Everyone sees these texts in their own subjective way and that's why accusations of not following canon. Every one has got a different vision of canon, not only concerning LACE, which doesn't make life easier.
And of course besides discussing how much Aelfwine was mistaken I'm happy that this text was written and published. Despite what I said I take as true a lot of it.

Re: #3 part, damned word count!

Date: 2007-03-07 12:42 am (UTC)
ext_79824: (Celegorm)
From: [identity profile] rhapsody11.livejournal.com
Or maybe Celegorm never loved her being one of these elves driven by sexual desire?

well how about this:
So great was her sudden beauty revealed beneath the sun that Celegorm became enamoured of her;

enamoured
adj. in love, delighted, charmed (also enamored)
enamour
v. inspire with love or delight

Completely smitten. Awwww.

Re: #3 part, damned word count!

Date: 2007-03-07 12:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sirielle.livejournal.com
And I always thought it means he was in love, but you don't capture into a cage those who you love. Especially being Quendu - in my idealistic vision of them at least. If he loved her and followed LACE, he would never do it. So he didn't love her or didn't follow LACE.
Or it was sex, nothing more (and politics, but that's additional use of that situation).

But I like also [livejournal.com profile] ithiliel_silver interpretation of that moment:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2464193/3/

Now it's too late, thank you for the nice conversation, if I've got anything more to add will do it later :)

Re: #3 part, damned word count!

Date: 2007-03-07 08:56 am (UTC)
ext_79824: (Maglor  whisper to me)
From: [identity profile] rhapsody11.livejournal.com
And I always thought it means he was in love, but you don't capture into a cage those who you love.

That depends. It happens daily.

Especially being Quendu - in my idealistic vision of them at least. If he loved her and followed LACE, he would never do it. So he didn't love her or didn't follow LACE.

Celegorm was Celegorm: the oath always came first, the rest comes later.

Or it was sex, nothing more (and politics, but that's additional use of that situation).

No it wasn't.

Now it's too late, thank you for the nice conversation, if I've got anything more to add will do it later :)

I suggest to stop debating it here, because this truly - and everything you brought up - had nothing to do with Remix's question. I don't want to flood her inbox with things that had nothing to do with her question about Elven Communities and the War of Wrath. It is not that I do not wish to debate Celegorm, but I don't want to continue hijacking this thread.

Re: #3 part, damned word count!

Date: 2007-03-07 12:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sirielle.livejournal.com
Right, I was thinking of it, either.I'm always forgetting it's not a message board ;)

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