[identity profile] elvses.livejournal.com
I'm sure this happens to other people all the time, and not just me. You know when you read something in a book (say, in March of 2002), and can then never find it again?

I am searching through the HoME volumes in a thus-far unsuccessful attempt to locate I particular footnote I remember reading once. It concerned Indis, previously recorded as Ingwë's sister, being moved down one generation and relabelled as the daughter of his sister. The specific quote I am looking for described the reason for doing this: being that Tolkien decided all the women of Ingwë and Finwë's generation would likely already be married, and so Finwë's second wife would have to be younger, as the daughter of Ingwë's sister rather than simply Ingwë's sister.

Indis-sister-of-Ingwë is the version that appears in the Statute of Finwë and Miriel in MR, but Indis-niece-of-Ingwë shows up in The Shibboleth of Fëanor (PM-e). I could not find the note I was looking for in either place.

Anyone have any ideas where such a note may be hiding?
[identity profile] mirien.livejournal.com
Alright, I'm asking for people's theories on this. I have an idea for a fic, but I need their relative ages and after scouring all the sources I know, I still can't pin it down. I have my own theory, but I'm curious as to what other people think. I'm also too impatient to start comparing their parents' marriage dates and speculating. So, anyone got any ideas?
[identity profile] fanged-geranium.livejournal.com
Hi folks, I'm not sure if this is exactly the right place to query the Silm itself, but I thought if anyone's likely to know the answer, they'll probably be here.

I was re-reading 'The Shaping of Middle-earth' this morning and I was reminded of something that I had noticed before and wondered about. In the 'History of Middle Earth' series - the whole of it, as far as I can tell - Curufin is Feanor's fourth son and Caranthir his fifth, but in the Silm they reverse birth order. However, this is only in the family tree given (which has errors) and in one listing of the Sons of Feanor (on the other three occasions the order is Celegorm, Curufin, Caranthir).

Does anyone know why, or what the sigificance of this is (if any!)?

ETA: I made [livejournal.com profile] jedda think about it yesterday evening, and she was kind (or evil) enough to point out that it's almost certainly an(other) editing mistake by Christopher Tolkien. Occam's razor, I guess, which is better than another 'Gil-galad's father' issue.

Now that would be an interesting challenge. I might even have to post it - Write a fic in which all Tolkien's changing opinions on G-g's parentage are correct!

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